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"Can anyone provide legitimate evidence of negative consequences of marijuan use?"

Original Opinion by Gaelin (211)

Over the years many wild claims have been made about marijuana, for example it has been claimed that it's use causes uncontrollable rage "reefer madness" and it has also been claimed that it makes people pacifists and could thus undermine American strength. Can anyone provide documentation of a well backed up experiment demonstrating negative consequences of pot use? warning: your examples will be analyzed brutally and without mercy

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Vultren's Avatar

"Creditability? " by Vultren (244)

Check out this link. Please take the time to read it.

This is a .gov website. I hope it's credibility is good enough for you.


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"Except.." by Gaelin (211)

Alot of this is nonsense. For example, it says legalization would burden the criminal justice system with marijuana relate crime. marijuana is not associated with crime, except for the crime of selling marijuana. the justice system would be unburdened by the end of prosecution for possession and sale of marijuana, and would unburden the prison system by releasing thousands of non violent inmates. It also says Pot use among teen increases when the perceived danger of pot use goes down.. well duh. But that doesn't mean we should lie to kids an tell them its dangerous when it's not just because we don't want them to use it. By the way, in the Netherlands where pot can be bought in coffee shops marijuana use has decreased among youths sense decriminalization.

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"Not nonsense at all..." by Vultren (244)

This site is 100% credible. Everything within that link is credible.

Lets take a look at your example: "But that doesn't mean we should lie to kids an tell them its dangerous when it's not just because we don't want them to use it."

According to my credible source, is says the following:

"Marijuana use is associated with dependence, respiratory and mental illness, poor motor
performance, and impaired cognitive and immune system functioning, among other
negative effects.
4
 Marijuana intoxication can cause distorted perceptions, difficulty in thinking and problem
solving, and problems with learning and memory.
5
 Studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of
anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, and schizophrenia.
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 Other research has shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to
the lungs. Marijuana smoke, in fact, contains 50‐70 percent more carcinogenic
hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.
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Legalization would lower price, thereby increasing use"



So, now that we can clearly see that the use of Marjiuana of harmful to your body, it's clear as to why we don't our teenagers using this.

If the drug wasn't bad for the individuals that used it, and clearly would help the government versus help it, then the government would have no reason except to allow it. Allow it and tax it. Any income for the government would help the quite so.

*Please should your credible source for your claim for the Netherlands statement.

Source(s):
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/pdf/mj_legal.pdf

Section: Marijuana use is harmful and should be discourage
Gaelin's Avatar

"Here is my source." by Gaelin (211)

Here is a drug report commisioned by president Nixon on marijuana. Give it a look. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/nc/ncmenu.htm

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"Vultren" by YAKA (6)

"If the drug wasn't bad for the individuals that used it, and clearly would help the government versus help it, then the government would have no reason except to allow it. Allow it and tax it. Any income for the government would help the quite so."

Politicians makes wrong decisions constantly and sadly are usually too stubborn to admit their mistakes. Maybe if you took a look into the history you'd realize there were other factors other than "it's bad for you."



If you think .gov sites are the end all, here's a contradictory study to "fact" #6:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/
The study is not alone, in fact the feds have a history of sponsoring marijuana research and covering up the results when positive results show.

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"One negative consequence." by Gaelin (211)

There's only one: the risk of incarceration. Did you know that if I was convicted of pot possession I would no longer be able to get federal student loans? If I was convicted of robbery or even rape or murder I would still be eligable. How can that be right? Let's look at some of your facts. " Studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of
anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, and schizophrenia." I can absolteky attest to the association between heavy pot use and depression, but I'm afraid corelation does not equal causation. The reason that association exists is because when people are depressed they're more likely to smoke, becaus it makes them feel better. As for the schizophrenia claim the DEA has been making that one since Nixon and they still don't have any compelling evidence to back it up. " Other research has shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. Marijuana smoke, in fact, contains 50‐70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke." absolutely true. However, the average tobacco smoker goes through a pack a day, whereas a very heavy pot smoker might smoke two joints a day. Not to mention that there are several ways to eliminate this risk such as using a vaporizer or cooking pot into food.

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"Government sources mean nothing..." by FreeRoamer (76)

...especially when it comes to this issue. There are too many government figures that profit from the prohibition of Marijuana to trust any government study, source, etc. about it. Congressment profit from this through checks handed to them by Pharmaceutical, Alcohol, Tobacco, Lumber, and Oil company lobbyists. DEA staff profit through their own employment. Dirty money and corruption are too rampant when it comes to this issue so the government simply CANNOT be trusted when it comes to this issue, unless you are only interested in hearing what you want to hear.

A prime example of this would be the constant claim by the Federal Government that marijuana has no medicinal value. First, I can attest to the contrary from personal experience - I used to have TERRIBLE insomnia and anxiety...words can only go so far to explain how crippling and damaging my insomnia was to my life. It affected my studies, relationships, and pretty much every aspect of my life. I tried supplemental melatonin, Ambien, etc. and none of that helped. Then I tried marijuana and that worked like a charm - I slept like a baby, and it did a lot to cure my anxiety as well. I no longer smoke marijuana, but my insomnia is still almost gone, and a fraction of what it used to be earlier in my life. Also, if the Federal Government claims Marijuana has no medical uses, then why do they promote SYNTHETIC THC and cannabinoid products such as Sativex and Marinol? This is a blatantly obvious contradiction and I cannot fathom how so many people have not yet realized it.

So the argument that Marijuana is medicinally useless is an utter lie. And this massive deception is enough to show that the Federal Gov does not tell the truth when it comes to Marijuana.

As for Vultren's argument:
"So, now that we can clearly see that the use of Marjiuana of harmful to your body, it's clear as to why we don't our teenagers using this."

As has been stated many times, change in marijuana policy is NOT about giving permission to teenagers, or allowing teenagers to smoke pot. In fact, if you want to use the "think of the children" argument, you could point to the fact that kids have an easier time getting pot than alcohol to illustrate how legalizing and regualting marijuana would HELP the children. But this "argument" is not designed to bring light to the issue, rather, it is an attempt to summon hasty, emotion-based, knee-jerk reactions from concerned-mother types, moralists, and people who cannot otherwise think for themselves and are easily subject to sensationalist propaganda.

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"Yes, but it should be legal." by Jwerk (8)

Marijuana does impair your judgement and hurt your lungs. However, this does not mean it should be illegal. It is less harmful and addictive to your body than alcohol, and a whole host of prescription drugs. If used sparingly, as in twice a week or less, it really has an extremely minimal effect, according to my doctor. The prohibition against weed is clearly not working. Rather, it is a huge waste of government money put toward catching and incarcerating harmless weed smokers who really aren't doing anything wrong.

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