"Would you have wanted to be aborted?"
Original Opinion by Vultren (249)
Here is a great question to all of those who support the women's choice in abortion. Would you personally be ok with being aborted if your mom wanted to do it?
"Uh... Yeah..." by opajela (13)
Of course. I'd be a overdeveloped cell and I wouldn't know shit about the world. I wouldn't care.
But I know you're talking about looking in hindsight. Same thing; if my mother needed an abortion for her well being, then I would be ok with her aborting me.
"It's all situational." by saoxiong (6)
People will have conflicting views about abortion for the rest of time. Personally, to answer the question as straight up and honest as possible, I would have been pissed to have been aborted by my mother. That is to say that because I wasn't, I was able to enjoy what my parents, and just life in general had to offer me. But, thinking about it from a different perspective, they weren't going to abort me anyway, so the question in its essence is skewed.
On the contrary, someone else may have even been okay with their mother aborting them. The reason why the question of abortion exists in the first place is because there is the question of, "If this person were to be born, would their life be content and meaningful?" The realistic answer is that not everyone will lead meaningful lives. Not everyone will enjoy what life has to offer because of the circumstances of their birth.
Anyway, I can go on, but I'm trying to keep it short. Ultimately, its all situational.
"Would you have wanted your mother to die in a back alley?" by Gaelin (211)
Because she did not have access to safe and legal abortion care? Not only do you never exist but your family falls apart before it ever exists.
"bravo" by anjinks (14)
Great point. I would also say to that argument that it's her body it should be her choice that it isn't her body so it shouldn't be her choice.
"Almost offensive Gaelin..." by Vultren (249)
You're creating a generalization that says your family will fall apart if you were not a planned birth... that's horrible.
opajela- So if your mom, today, no medical problems, decided you were too much of a problem, you would have no problem with her essentially killing you against your will?
"You Misunderstand" by Gaelin (211)
I'm saying IF YOUR MOTHER DIES it will destroy your family, not that if you are an irregular birth you will destroy your family! Read more carefully next time! Vultren a fully developed adult human is not the same as a nervous-systemless Fetus. I know it hard but you need to separate yourself from all the emotion you feel on this subject if you want to have a serious discussion.
"Grammar result in error." by Vultren (249)
I misunderstood because of the poor sentence structure.
So Gaelin, my question to you is the same as the original... would you have cared if your mother aborted you? There are no emotions attached to this. It's a simple question.
"Point" by ispep (47)
Good point. I would not have wanted to be aborted. Makes me change positions almost all the way.
"Emotion." by Gaelin (211)
"would you have cared if your mother aborted you? There are no emotions attached to this. It's a simple question." Vultren this question cannot be separated from emotion, it is a purely emotional reaction to what you perceive as an injustice. If i had been aborted i never would have developed the ability to form an opinion on the matter.
"Nope" by Vultren (249)
It's not an emotional reaction at all... it's a yes or no question. I'm confused as to why you added the false comments about emotion when you answered the question yourself WITHOUT emotion attached:
"If i had been aborted i never would have developed the ability to form an opinion on the matter."
That was all.
"Does anybody LOVE abortion? No!" by Tim (21)
No foetus has a say in an abortion. What a stupid argument.
Nobody is in favour of abortion, but there are situations where abortion is best for the mother, or for the family, or for the child.
It's a moral decision, for each individual mother/father to decide.
What happened to the Republican ideal of separation of government and state?
"Hmmm" by Alexanerdable (47)
Well who are the mothers that usually choose to have an abortion? Those who either don't want a child, or those who cannot support a child.
Would I want to live in an environment where my mother doesn't want me, or doesn't care for me with all her heart and resources? No.
Would I want to live in an environment where my family cannot afford proper resources necessary for my healthiness? No. I was very sick as a baby, and if my parents were any more poorer than they were, I know for a fact that I would have died without proper medical treatment. Or if I did get that treatment anyway, my family would have been in major debt and depression.
"Church and State" by Vultren (249)
"What happened to the Republican ideal of separation of government and state?"
I didn't know that was "Republican" I thought it was American.
"No foetus has a say in an abortion. What a stupid argument."
It's not stupid at all. You simply wouldn't have wanted to have been aborted. You can say it. If you wanted to be aborted because you feel so strongly with the pro choice option, then commit suicide when times get rough. You'll be credible then.
"..." by JedofSpades (7)
This question is difficult as the answer is impossible. As an aborted foetus, you wouldn't have the ability to form an opinion. But, in some sort of metaphorical situation in which you could give an answer, you would need to compare your own ideals with how your family is now coming along. You would need to also see what your family is like had you not been aborted.
Scenario 1: Your mother went behind your father's back to get the abortion as she personally didn't feel she was ready for children. This resulted in your father divorcing your mother and starting a new life elsewhere, while your mother attempts to grovel for him. Eventually, the guilt she may possibly be feeling overwhelms her, and she is driven to suicide.
Reaction 1: Obviously, if this happened, I would be upset because I missed out on my chance for life and cost the life of others.
Scenario 2: Both your mother and father agreed this was the best thing to do, as they were landed in financial difficulties and would not be able to raise a child. Having been aborted, I see that they are now doing well having sorted out their situation and they have a new child and fully support it. However, if they had birthed me, our family would be in ruins and we would have to live in poor quality conditions. I wouldn't receive a proper education and would end up in a bad job that I dislike for the rest of my life, while my parents constantly barely pay off debts.
Reaction 2: I would be overjoyed if I was aborted, as it means my family survived and could be happy, rather than being in a depressive situation. It also means another person got a chance at life and was fortunate enough to land in a good family.
Scenario 3: I am diagnosed with a genetic disorder which causes me to feel pain all through my life. I am also shunned by the rest of society as I am unable to look after myself properly, having to rely on the aid of others. I cause my parents constant stress.
Reaction 3: In this situation, I would not only want to have been aborted, I would want to be killed there and then to end the misery I am causing.
As you can see, we would need to see both scenarios to come up with an actual answer. However, that is impossible, so your question can't be answered. Sorry for the lengthy reply.
"ridiculous" by Tim (21)
"I didn't know that was "Republican" I thought it was American. "
Haven't read the rest of your response, but laughed out loud when I saw that you think you're more American than me because you're a Republican.
"a democracy is formed on varied, VALID opinions. learn to understand and respect others." by Tim (21)
You seem so immature in thinking and response to me.
"It's not stupid at all. You simply wouldn't have wanted to have been aborted. You can say it. If you wanted to be aborted because you feel so strongly with the pro choice option, then commit suicide when times get rough. You'll be credible then."
It's impossible to answer such a question without having a memory of being in your mother's womb (which is, by the way, absolutely, categorically impossible, if you didn't know).
"I like my life." by Zebradick (11)
I like my life now so I wouldn't have wanted to been aborted but I would "understand" if I had to be aborted if it would have left my Mom worse off.
"Vultren, forcing a yes or no answer" by sbrettt (17)
Vultren, since you are fond of yes or no questions is your view on abortion influenced by your religion? Yes or no.